The listing agency, the buyer, and the seller will be involved in a
transaction. Understanding the expectations of each party will
reduce or eliminate conflicts between them.
The buyer and seller are not bound to operate under the guidelines that
are outlined here, nor can we in any way enforce them.
In general, we believe
that if you treat the other party like you would like to be treated, there
will be few upsets.
The primary objective of the GunsForSale site is the selling and buying of guns. The format is simple and straight forward, so that users can find what they are looking for without a lot of fanfare. We will provide quotes if an advertiser wants a special setup, or a listing which links into a user's home page. This includes creating a home page for a small business to linking an existing retail or wholesaler's existing home page. These objectives may change at the option of the listing service at any time. Other hunting/camping advertisements may be added, but the intent is to concentrate on firearms.
This is a for-profit operation. Many believe that the Internet is free. The computer resources, registering the domain name, advertising, and personnel to answer the phone and maintain the on-line listings requires resources. The pricing and service is being set to provide a profit for the provider of service, and at the same time, give the seller a reasonable cost for listing their merchandise.
We assume no responsibility for content of listings or claims and actions by our advertisers. We give no advice to advertisers as to a listing price, nor will we act as consultants as to whether the listing is a good buy.
For prepaid ads received by 6pm Central time, our goal is to have them on-line by 8am the next day. We will be available for listings, Monday-Friday, 8am-6pm central time, except for the week of Thanksgiving and Christmas.
The information will be placed on the internet in a format that will be displayed well by the Netscape Browser. We will not guarantee that any other browser will provide the same readability as does Netscape.
We will only list your first name in the Internet listing. We will not make any of the listing information available, except what is placed on the Internet, without your written permission, or a court order.
The process begins when a seller decides to list the gun with the listing service. The detailed listing information is given in the format section. Much of the material is factual; however the condition of the gun is a subjective evaluation.
For guidance in stating the guns condition, we suggest that the standard be applied as from the Blue Book of Gun Values Seventeenth Edition by S. P. Fjestad which provides guidance on the grading of firearms. Pages 22 and 23 are provided for guidance:
The old, NRA method of firearms grading -- by relying upon adjectives such as "Excellent" or "Fair" -- has served the firearms fraternity for a long time. Today's collectors, however, are turning away from such a subjective system. One man's "Fair" is another man's "Good!".
The leading professionals in the grading of firearms now utilize what is essentially an objective method for deciding the price of a gun: THE PERCENTAGE OF ORIGINAL FACTORY FINISH BLUING REMAINING ON THE GUN. After looking critically at a few firearms, and carefully studying the Photo Percentage Grading System (starts on page 26), even the novice can soon tell whether a piece has 100%, 98%, 95%, or less bluing finish remaining. Remember, sometime an older gun described as NIB can actually be 98% or less condition, simply because of the wear accumulated by taking it in and out of the box and being handled too many times (commemoratives are especially prone to this problem).
Of course, factors such as "depth" and quality of the bluing finish, engraving and embellishment, historical significance, and even the condition of the stock can and do affect the price. But the basic "condition" -- and therefore the price -- is best determined by the percentage of original bluing finish remaining. The key word here is "original" for if anyone other than the factory has refinished the gun, its value as a collector's item is greatly diminished, with the exception of rare and historical pieces that have been properly restored. Study the photographs on pages 26-64. Note how the bluing finish in certain areas of the firearm wear off first. These are usually places where the gun rubs the holster, hand or body over an extended period of time. A variety of firearms have been shown in four-color to guarantee that your "sampling rate" for observing finishes is as diversified as possible.
It should be noted that the older a collectable firearm is, the smaller the percentage of original bluing finish one can expect to find. Some very old and/or very rare firearms are acceptable to collectors in almost any condition! The average collector, however, will probably never have the opportunity to purchase such a specimen.
For your convenience, NRA Condition Standards are shown below. Converting from this grading system to percentages can now be done accurately.
When converting from NRA Modern Standards, the following rules generally apply:
New/Perfect -- 100% with or without box. Not mint - new. 100% on currently manufactured firearms assumes NIB condition. Excellent -- 95%+ - 99% (typically). Very Good -- 80 - 95% - all original. Good -- 60 - 80% - all original. Fair -- 20 - 60% - may not be original (shootable, not very collectable). Poor -- Under 20%.
These NRA conditions listed below have been provided by the author as guidelines to assist the reader in converting and comparing condition factors to the Photo Percentage Grading System in this publication. In order to use this book correctly, the reader is urged to consult these condition standards when converting to percentages of condition. Once the gun's condition has been accurately assessed, only then can the correct values be ascertained.
As can be seen by reviewing these two pages, several references are made to pictures in The Blue Book of Gun Values. If you plan to buy and sell guns, you may wish to invest in a copy which can be purchased at almost any gun show, or by calling Blue Book Publications, Inc. directly to order at 1-800-877-4867, or by viewing their website at http://www.bluebookinc.com.
The buyer is now looking for a gun. The novice should either attend a gun show, or visit a gun store, sporting good store, or pawn shop where they can see and feel the desired gun.
The buyer should e-mail/call the seller, and may request more details than are listed. This may include whether there is a sling with the gun, what type of base and mounts are included, how long the gun has been owned by the seller, the accuracy if known, etc., etc.
An agreement should be made as to how the gun will be shipped, method of payment, and whether or not the buyer has a return option. There are several alternatives for making the transaction. There may be others that are not listed. All aspects should be understood, before any transfer begins.
Part of the discussion between the buyer and seller should include the expectations of the buyer upon receipt of the gun. The first question should be is the gun in the condition as advertised? That could mean having a local gunsmith check it over. Unless agreed to, it would not mean taking it to a range for test firing. It would definitely NOT mean hunting a few days, and then declaring that the gun was not as advertised. (Please don't laugh; this happens all the time with stores that sell clothing).
If the buyer is unhappy with the gun, they should call the seller and arrange to return the gun. It is recommended that the buyer pay the return shipping if the gun is returned for any reason. When the seller receives the gun, they should promptly return/refund the monies previously received.
For those who do not trust dealing with items unseen and who are leery about
honesty in advertising, a
third party brokering alternative is discussed in the buying/shipping section.
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